tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post3548698413016948200..comments2024-03-28T20:13:55.373+05:30Comments on Ancient Inquiries: Yoga Mudras in Orthodox Christian Art: Does it indicate a Hindu-Buddhist Influence?Bibhu Dev Misrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-41474628043775174972023-01-29T11:04:04.681+05:302023-01-29T11:04:04.681+05:30In Orthodox have meaning of the 3 spirit, god and ...In Orthodox have meaning of the 3 spirit, god and son, but in Chatolic, they deny to have 3 different things, they deny the Spirit! Why you will ask? Simply- because this religion is invented to control the humanity<br />It was at the very beginning -part of the executive power in the state, state government.<br />it has no such power now, as before... but it used to have. before taxes was paid to the church, as taxes to the state are at present.<br />even in Germany now they have a church tax of 10% tithe is still paid, they say whoever wants it, it is probably not mandatory - I don't have exact data.<br />That is why the concept of "spirit" - inner strength, free will, vitality, energy - has been deleted from the Catholicism in general. But in Orthodox still exist the idea of Spirit, and the 3 things Spirit, God, and Son are conected in one, but they are not one. <br />Because catolics wanted to control the peoples, and to not have peoples Spirit. to do not have free will - to erase the thinkng, but just to beliving! <br />Because only instinct - your inner strength lifts you up - not to wait some god...<br />In the very first christianyti, the god, the spirit, the strenght - is represented not somewhere out there.. but inside the humans - chisus say that he is inside everyone... not to search him outside, or in some temples, or in some churches... So this is the original idea of the Chesus christ.. <br />Otherwise, you remain a Sheep - and you wait for the Lord, your shepherd, to lead you.<br />(as it is explained the idea in ofitial catolic christianity..in Islam too)<br />These mono-theistic religions are purposefully such, not by chance, but invented in order to rule the people and the state through them - they are religions of the ruling controlling one-person power - as a one-person deity - with the image of a man. Especially in Islam, it is a very unbalanced religion towards masculinity and femininity and do not have balance and harmony. <br />There the man is supreme, while the woman is oppressed and humiliated and depersonalized. Therefore, this religion is not balanced and out of balance as male energy predominates and as we can see men mainly make wars and conflicts while women are the ones who resolve conflicts.<br />Women makes life, give birth, rise children, they give peace to the world.. this is the women energy<br />Humanity will be fine when "official" religions are abolished, because the most religious are peoples, they are the most stupid, the most illiterate and do not learn anything about enlightenment or read books other than religious ones. This makes them the most mentally and intellectually retarded. And as such stupid masses, are most easily governed by religion. <br />Religions must be practiced, only by desire, and whoever wants it, without imposing it on anyone else as an idea.<br />Until now, both Islam and Christianity have been imposed by violence! which is not normal! <br />But in those days, religion was Power - They ruled - the priests were in power.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-88595365617207448552023-01-29T10:26:41.475+05:302023-01-29T10:26:41.475+05:3005
so much historically has been staked on us this...05<br />so much historically has been staked on us this slavery, millennial slavery! constant conquest of our lands and people, that in our language we have a whole branch with the root "Buda" - and "bud"<br />the very word as "to be" - as I repeat is not only in the meaning of to be, but it makes a lot more sense<br />to stay "da preBUDA u BUDeshteto"<br />to exist forward - PreBUDvam<br />to be free - being -"SvoBODA" Bod=bud<br />the being is a free creation of the world<br />existence equals freedom - there is no unfree existence (creatures are all free)<br />to be alive- is to be "Buda"<br />to be not only alive, but vibrant - an energetic, lively person, happy, enjoying life<br />we have when comces new year, we put one old wood - in the fire - and have to keep this fire all night, untill the morning - this holy night is BUDni vecher its mean "Budni" Evening. <br />it is before christmas. Its like Awaikening evening, to be in the future, to go and pass on the futre,<br />to continue to exist in next year. like this such simbolic meaning have. Thats why have to keep all night the fire- the light - like simbol of beeing, to go on... the wood is "Budnik", the evening is "Budni" evening. Look also the sity in Hungary - it is Buda and Pesht! Hung are from Huns, and Atila, and they where close relatives tribes with us, we are from one big family with hungarians nation. <br /><br />that's what To Be means to us. - not just to be present boringly and pointlessly, but to actively live, create and enjoy life, and if you can help your neighbors.<br />Therefore, our Awakeners our Heroes, are like in asia waiting for the new Buddha, <br />For us it makes sense that these awakeners will fix and help the nation, as some christian waits his god to come down from up.. <br />- and the lasy nations, are always waiting for them as some kind of messiahs, as ready-made saviors... always waiting for someone to save them..<br />But the people don't want to help themselves and wake up.- as to be theis own Buddas to themself.<br /><br />Even Orthodox - the problem of Christianity is that it gives the idea to the people - to the population, to always wait for someone from somewhere outside to save them! And not just to help yourself, alone, to brace yourself, to have courage, determination, strength, self-belief, to unite and rise up against tyranny, or against slavery, or against all kinds of problems from the authorities.<br />The meaning of the Buda is just to be alone awake of yourself, to be brave, conect all peoples, and be more self defencive. <br />It is easy to understand, but peoples are lasy, and they do not wanna fight for their freedom. thats why they will constantly belive in some religions, or to wait someone else some Budda some God, some Angel, or some Hero...to do their job.. <br />The power is inside everyone -inside the body in the SPIRIT. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-71008731852047179412023-01-29T09:21:28.845+05:302023-01-29T09:21:28.845+05:3004
the earliest writing in the whole world was inv...04<br />the earliest writing in the whole world was invented not in Mesopotamia, or the land of the pyramids - Egypt, but here, on our territory (Bulgaria ).<br /> The signs on ceramics from Gradeshnitsa, Karanovo, Hotnitsa and other places predate Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs by about 1000-2000 years<br /><br />You yourself can think of where the culture of the world comes from - at least that of Europe, the Near Egyret, and the Near East.<br />By the way, I even found many words in our language - which correspond in sound and meaning not only in some persian , or samskrit, or even hindy, but inJapanese words too!!! <br />so nothing is accidental! And the languages are soo interesting to esplore! <br />In my opinion - the ancient people traveled everywhere!<br />And we are all connected culturally and fisicaly! because we are all one , but separated in the world :) <br />Greetings Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-14877652351635211352023-01-29T09:18:17.038+05:302023-01-29T09:18:17.038+05:3003
Our language is directly related to Sanskrit la...03<br />Our language is directly related to Sanskrit language.<br />Which says a lot about what we've been like since prehistoric times.<br />Buddha in our language is "to wake up" - we say like this, when "I wake up" from sleep. <br />Normal word for waking up in the morning after sleep. but we also have a lot of words from Buda -(its no matter with double dd or h - the important is the meaning of the word, and sounding!) So - Pro-Bujdam Pro-Budda - is to be Awaiken - like Enlighten, in mind. becuae "Pro"- is like for "More" "in fromt" and many others - related to Buddha as a root word. <br />Buda -has meaning for "To be" we say "Da Budda" we have also - "Budnini" - it is the future life- infront, days in the future. Also Future tense - as a grammatical tense, we say Budeshte- is from the root Budd. In our language "Buditel" - a people's awakener, is a national hero, that we remember permanently as god, a person who was fighth for the rights of the peoples and awakens the people from a deep sleep, because the people are always used by the authorities and oppressed or used as sheeps for milking and shearing. <br />This waker is like our Budda, - it is an spreader of the thrught, informer, teacher, and saiver of the nation from some slavery etc.. and he risk his life, of being killed by the authorities.<br />Most of our "Buddas" as we call our heroes - as Bud-iteli - as Awaikeners of the pepoles, Helpers of the peoples, and Heroes, ofcours where sacrified their life in battles for the liberation of the people.<br />If you want to learn the ancient truths, you should read really many hidden ancient books and you will get to the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-43748246278783362782023-01-29T09:18:02.924+05:302023-01-29T09:18:02.924+05:3002-
All the working stuff entered Europe thanks t...02- <br />All the working stuff entered Europe thanks to us from Old Great Bulgaria. Look on the map where it was our country before - in the same place, where after has start "The Migration Period, also known as the Barbarian Invasions, after this great migration, was fall of the Roman Imperia.<br />The western Europeans havent no concept of such a simple tools as how to dig ground, they wasnt a shepherd, or agricultures. After a lot of thousands years, they start to develop agriculture, even now, they are lasy- the westerns, do not want to work! And again wait our peoples from east europe, to go there and to work on their lands! <br /> We have been together with the Macedonians, who are Bulgarians, the first ploughmens, the sowers and the farmers of the Balkans. It was some miration to europe, not recently, but long time ago- before maybe 20 000 or maybe 40 000 years! <br />After comes the secont wave.. and so on.. The Greeks came much later on this continent, from Africa and Phoenicia. They are merchants, they are cunning, fishermen, they are not a people to work the land. Even they don't have a word or an expression like "I dig". but they have "Dig!" in command form - which speaks of how they were at the time towards the local conquered population - i.e. us. <br />The Greeks colonized a lot - and the Balkans, and reached all costals area from black sea, to today's Ukraine, and reached also Italy and all the islands in Mediteranea sea, even before the Roman Empire. The Romans shared their influence - with the Western Holy Roman Empire and the Eastern - which was Byzantium.<br />The Bulgarians constantly fought with them - to liberate the local population. But after so many battles, our strength has weakened. They make genocide of our nation, as turks.. We never make such enocide to nobody! We always was fighting for free our teritories with our peoples. <br />We are creators of culture and spreaders of writing and reading. No other nation in Europe can boast of this and such a work - on a scale. Which says that our nation influences other nations culturally, through enlightenment, not through violence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-4818241801034181072023-01-29T09:16:30.799+05:302023-01-29T09:16:30.799+05:30Here I would also like to add, as a Bulgarian woma...Here I would also like to add, as a Bulgarian woman who knows very well the ancient language we speak, that if you don't know, we had a cultural influence on the construction of the Hindu civilization. I'm talking about thousands of years before Christ! And these are facts, historical facts and confirmed ones by scientists. There are many books on the matter, but you should read the not falsified "official theory" about us Bulgarians we was Thracians and from the Arians. <br />And it was the Arians who built Buddhism in India. This is not an Indian ideology but an Aryan culture. Some iranian culture. Aryans are a tribe that lived around Nepal, near Bukhara, and then settled in the northern part of India to influence the writing of this language "Samskrta" and the emergence of Buddhism.<br />I mentioned that we know each other's language well. The meaning of Buddha, his name and what it means is easily explained in Bulgarian language. We have many derived words from this word and not only, in our modern language. As in all Slavic languages (I exclude Greek, Turkish and Western) - Our modern language is very similar to the ancient sacred language Samskrit - it is the holy language, not of Indian origin. Due to the fact that we are the first civilization in Europe and it is proven that we have since at least 8000 years ago. developed agriculture, we were also the first spreaders of Orthodox Christianity and the first spreaders of the new script - the Cyrillic alphabet, which is incorrectly called that - it's a very old Bulgarian alphabet, but while we were under the rule of Romans, Byzantines and after Turks and all sorts, all they want to destroy our culture and identity. Untill now, they say that we are from turks origin, but we prove with DNA that we are arians, europeans and form indo-european-iranian-arian origin.. <br />We are still proving what we are and how ancient we are. Constantly our invasions destroyed and burned all the artifacts so that we would have no history and the rulers would appropriate the glory.<br />Chekruk is our word for the weel, as indian Chakra. because Kruk - in bulgarian means Circle. Che-Kruk = Cha-Kra - it is the same. Waved line - but in circle. We know what its mean<br />Also like example -. Krishna - is because he dance and are very wayvy - Krish - is a bulgarian word for like to brake dance- to make brake in the pelvis the pelvis is Krust- as Cros. <br />Kursha se - means to make waving siluete as you dance. In our langiage we can explain all sort of worlds gods, religions. like Egiptian too, because we was conected with egiptian history also. <br />Our word for people are Hora, Ora - its like the god Hor from egiptian mitology. Osiris, is like the Grain -O-rise Rise- Rice - Because the legend is that it was burried in the gound- as death, and after it go Resurrects from ground - like grains do, when they sprout again they have life - and go up to the sun. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-35856855034717332802022-07-10T23:29:02.062+05:302022-07-10T23:29:02.062+05:30Daemon - a divinity between God's and humans.Daemon - a divinity between God's and humans.Markosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-74147059552747532142022-03-25T21:16:31.510+05:302022-03-25T21:16:31.510+05:30hi!
It seems amrita is no "sanctified water&...hi!<br /><br />It seems amrita is no "sanctified water"...<br /><br />https://davidya.ca/2015/06/07/on-soma/Ulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16340927095544181234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-5150966658857079762022-03-25T21:13:57.462+05:302022-03-25T21:13:57.462+05:30Hi!
What about this...?
"Spontaneous origins ...Hi!<br />What about this...?<br />"Spontaneous origins of yoga"<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaxUwPJEAM4Ulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16340927095544181234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-89674296636938684922022-01-17T01:15:23.433+05:302022-01-17T01:15:23.433+05:30Max Müller, a German philologist with a passion fo...Max Müller, a German philologist with a passion for Hinduism, asked the lama of the monastery through a letter about any visits from westerners there and of any such text and the lama replied there was no such text and that there was no visit from any westerner for at least 15 years. Mind you, Max Müller was accused of being an anti-Christian, so it's also hard to say that this text you chat about actually existed since not all westerners were Christianity apologetical.deepstraszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05114113895742442933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-33963972312493204902021-11-22T13:06:19.443+05:302021-11-22T13:06:19.443+05:30Swami Adbhedananda, a senior monk of the Ramakrish...Swami Adbhedananda, a senior monk of the Ramakrishna Mission had also gone to the Hemis monastery after Notovitch's writings were published. Adbhedananda had written in Bengali about the life of Saint Issa in India, and his account matches with that of Notovitch's. I find it difficult to believe that such a senior and well-respected monk - a direct disciple of Ramakrishna - who was the President of the Vedanta Society of New York, would publish any false account or popularize a hoax. Its far easier to believe that most western scholars do no want to link Jesus with India or Hinduism/Buddhism and have consciously decided to reject these accounts. Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-43886688426339319932021-11-14T21:17:45.530+05:302021-11-14T21:17:45.530+05:30What Nicolas Notovitch wrote is considered a hoax ...What Nicolas Notovitch wrote is considered a hoax by most scholars. So, I wouldn't be so sure that Jesus actually went there rather than missionaries from India coming to the Levant since there is archeological evidence of that.deepstraszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05114113895742442933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-85458526261692566322021-11-06T18:13:51.696+05:302021-11-06T18:13:51.696+05:30Thanks for leaving your thoughtful response. The &...Thanks for leaving your thoughtful response. The "higher energy fields" that you mentioned is called "prana" or cosmic energy in yogic parlance. The mudras increase and direct the flow of prana throughout the body, specifically the chakra points, to elevate our consciousness and heal bodily ailments. As per the text preserved in the Hemis monastery in Ladakh, India, (and translated by Nicolas Notovitch) Jesus had traveled throughout India and the Himalayas during his lost years, where he had learnt from the yogic masters and attained high states of realization. Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-73478494708676031172021-10-21T20:47:18.693+05:302021-10-21T20:47:18.693+05:30Thank you for this amazing article. I stumbled on ...Thank you for this amazing article. I stumbled on your article because I was interested in knowing the relationship between Jesus and mudras. <br /><br />As a Christian raised in Africa who meditates, some of these ideas are not very accepted. I was gifted a book lately called "Power Vs Force" and it helped me make sense of a lot. Especially why it seems that there is a yogic influence on Christianity. <br /><br />From my studies, I now understand that mudras are energy antennas. The great sages who were vibrating on a higher level were more aware and these mudras a kinesthetic medium to transmit those higher energy fields into human consciousness. <br /><br />Jesus Christ who was one of the few people in history who reached these high levels of enlightenment could definitely feel this high energy level and the intuitive kinesthetic urge to transmit this energy into human consciousness as well. Though hard evidence is not provided yet, I do believe that in the lost years he had to travel to find people who could relate to what he was feeling. <br /><br />Kakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212564641224807425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-80134130127981631522021-10-08T12:23:33.993+05:302021-10-08T12:23:33.993+05:30While it is true that all religions have a tendenc...While it is true that all religions have a tendency at divergence and syncretism, such tendencies are generally less at the beginning and increase with time. In Buddhism, for instance, we see the emergence of Mahayana Buddhism nearly 500 years after Buddha, and of Vajrayana Buddhism another 700 years later. Since these Byzantine icons are a part of the Orthodox Church, and the Orthodox Christians claim to have preserved the original teachings of the Apostles in their pristine form, it is very likely that the yoga mudras are a part of the original teachings from the 1st century CE. One cannot state with absolute certainty, of course, but the possibility that they were added later i.e. between the 1st and 3rd centuries, is much less. The icons seem to have been quite popular and were prominently displayed, which suggests that they contained important messages that the Early Church wanted to send out to its followers.Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-83176431598086497732021-10-06T12:23:39.907+05:302021-10-06T12:23:39.907+05:30Since we are in a descending cycle of consciousnes...Since we are in a descending cycle of consciousness, the original meanings of the sacred symbols and spiritual practices may be forgotten or misunderstood. However, when you look carefully beneath the prevailing ideas, the original meanings can be recovered. Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-71308527989770850722021-10-06T12:22:21.223+05:302021-10-06T12:22:21.223+05:30All religions have a tendency towards divergence a...All religions have a tendency towards divergence and loss, especially at the beginning. Christianity is no different. To say with certainty that something was part of the original Christian religion, there would have to be evidence from the 1st Century. By the 3rd century, too much time has passed. Evidence from the 3rd century would equally suggest that it was part of the original as well as that it could have been added later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-49298186388134634892021-10-06T12:15:54.442+05:302021-10-06T12:15:54.442+05:30Symbols and rituals can change meaning over time a...Symbols and rituals can change meaning over time and mean different things in different cultures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-15801346069894797942021-10-05T10:50:45.038+05:302021-10-05T10:50:45.038+05:30True. Most of our religious rituals have been hand...True. Most of our religious rituals have been handed down by the Seven Sages of antiquity who roamed the earth in ancient times and passed on the entire corpus of human wisdom and modes of worship. The Seven Sages have been mentioned in the legends of many ancient cultures. After them, many lineages of sages and rishis carried on these traditions. However, due to the recurrent cataclysms that strike us, especially during the periods of transition between the Yugas, sometimes this knowledge is lost from certain parts of the world, following which the knowledge may again be recovered due to migrations and trade contacts. It seems to me that the knowledge of yoga and yoga mudras may have been forgotten in West Asia, since we dont find any depictions of yoga or mudras in Mesopotamian art. It was recovered again by coming in contact with the Hindu-Buddhist missionaries. Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-4666661101960486702021-10-03T13:33:13.031+05:302021-10-03T13:33:13.031+05:30Very interesting. It's also worth pointing ou...Very interesting. It's also worth pointing out that similarities among religions does not necessarily suggest that symbolism and ritual were borrowed from one religion to another. It could simply mean that both are building on something even older. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-86056316783184479682021-08-10T10:51:40.603+05:302021-08-10T10:51:40.603+05:30Not correct. Do a search for Prithvi Mudra and you...Not correct. Do a search for Prithvi Mudra and you will find hundreds of yoga websites showing you how to do this mudra. The Surya / Agni Mudra is shown in Fig. 7. It is similar to the Prithvi Mudra, but in this case the ring finger is held down by the thumb. Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-53152407190464731762021-08-10T05:52:44.963+05:302021-08-10T05:52:44.963+05:30The Byzantine Icon appears to be depicting Surya R...The Byzantine Icon appears to be depicting Surya Ravi mudra, rather than Prithvi mudra. reference: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/0a/3b/020a3b17c24605cc40f908589c7a6aec.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-44904630110217705962021-07-15T15:28:41.867+05:302021-07-15T15:28:41.867+05:30Thanks for leaving your comment. The image of Jesu...Thanks for leaving your comment. The image of Jesus under the mustard tree is a Byzantine icon, but I dont know when it was created. I found a link for it: https://in.pinterest.com/pin/422845852497288146/Bibhu Dev Misrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388473714672380058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-83561956334185627062021-07-12T22:02:24.521+05:302021-07-12T22:02:24.521+05:30Fascinating article- thank you for your research a...Fascinating article- thank you for your research and skilful combining of observations about imagery in these traditions. the Image of Jesus seated under the Mustard Tree is particularly striking for me because of what appears to be the lotus throne as well as the mudra and ushnisha equivalent. I can't find the original blog- could you say more about the source and do you know anything of an estimated date for this image please?<br />liashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07231228178416489311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864653463177413678.post-13043420188751928542020-07-12T19:47:36.046+05:302020-07-12T19:47:36.046+05:30Yoga is eternal part of HINDUISM , Yoga is thousan...Yoga is eternal part of HINDUISM , Yoga is thousand years older , even when christanity was not invented by misoneries.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17294964328642545344noreply@blogger.com